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May 24th, 2010 by Dr. Phil

What Should We Do about Child Pornography?

typingBefore I let loose, I want all of you to know that I spent many, many years working as a trial consultant for some of the bigger law firms in the country. I am deeply devoted to the law and to our system of justice. It is what helps make the United States stand out above all other countries in the world. 

So, when I happened to read this past week about a well-known federal judge in New York, Jack B. Weinstein, who is on a crusade to combat what he calls “the unnecessary cruelty of the law,” I initially thought, good for him.

Then I learned that Judge Weinstein, as part of his crusade, is defending the supposed rights of a man who had amassed a vast collection of child pornography. The judge, in fact, had twice thrown out convictions that would have ensured that this particular man spend at least five years behind bars. I thought, are you kidding me?

Weinstein, who has been on the bench for 43 years, unabashedly has attacked the law passed by Congress that establishes a mandatory minimum sentence of five years for anyone convicted of receiving child pornography. “I don’t approve of child pornography,” he told the New York Times.  But, he added that he does not believe that those who view the images — as opposed to those who produce or sell them — present a threat to children. “We’re destroying lives unnecessarily,” he said in the interview. “At the most, they should be receiving treatment and supervision.”

And wait until you hear about the man the judge is defending. His name is Pietro Polizzi, a married father of five who collected more than 5,000 graphic photos of children, most of prepubescent girls.  Did you hear me? That’s 5,000 graphic photos! At this dirtbag’s trial, his lawyer, incredibly, used an insanity defense, claiming Polizzi had been repeatedly raped as a child and had collected the pictures not for sexual gratification, but in the hopes of finding evidence of his own abuse.

Polizzi is a disgrace to society who needs to pay for what he did. My God, does anyone really believe that a five-year sentence is too severe for what this man did?  Does anyone really think that what he was doing was just a harmless little hobby — an amateur investigation into his past? Does anyone truly believe we’re being too tough on a man who preys on children?

And let’s make no mistake about it: Polizzi was preying on children. He was gaining pleasure from the pain of real children who were exploited to make the photographs that he collected.

Judge Weinstein, as well as other federal judges who are involved in this issue, do point out that under federal mandatory sentencing guidelines, prison sentences for looking at pornographic pictures of children sometimes eclipse prison sentences for actually sexually abusing a child. And the judge is not suggesting possession of child pornography should no longer be a crime, but I am simply sickened that he would make the argument that those who possess, but don’t produce, child porn are somehow less culpable for the damage done to those children. Those people create the market for this whole sordid business. Yes, there are people who make child porn for their own pleasure, but they also make it because there are buyers for it. Anyone involved in the chain of victimization of children — whether a buyer or seller — is a criminal.

Obviously, we need to get a handle on child pornography. It’s flourishing throughout the Internet. So, what do you think is the answer? Do you think, as the federal judge does, that we should have a little more patience with adults who download photos of children? Should we view what they’re doing as a victimless crime which requires more counseling instead of punishment? Do you think it’s possible that therapy can cure people who genuinely want to look at such degrading, horrific photos? Or do you think we should throw the book at them, letting everyone know full well the consequences of such behavior?

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84 Responses to “What Should We Do about Child Pornography?”

  1. L.A. MikeTheSkeptic says:

    Personally, i just think that kids have the right to be kids, unmolested.
    And a consent/voting/majority age of 18 (when most guys and gals will enter college) sounds about right to me.

    And an age for alcohol? I just don’t drink anymore. Quit in 1985 and never regretted it.

    And child porn? The grossest abuse of a child’s trust. What are those kids going to say when they grow up and see those pics of themselves on the Internet?
    And what about giving those kids a normal, happy life, anyhow? What about giving them decent (and potentially joyous) things like a real education?

    Good God, people, the Internet is good for more than porn. I figure that porn, I suppose, is information of a kind, but it’s the same thing over and over again. Redundant after a while. Better to get a real circle of friends, instead of just a two-dimensional screen. In the meantime, the Internet is there for REAL information and a real education, wherever one falls on the political/cultural spectrum. (i am decidedly a lefty social liberal.) I may be a freethinker, but I also believe in giving kids and teens as much of the positive in life as possible.

    And adult porn? I’ve learned various things about it, not all of them bad. (Get ready for the flack, Mike.) But those are adults. These are ingenuous, trusting prepubescent kids we’re talking about here. They need guidance and above all, real friendship and positiveness in their lives, not cold exploitation that goes way over their heads at their ages.

    Tragic.

  2. I agree with you Dr. Phil… that to candy coat such a serious matter is crazy by its truest sense “a danger to self or others”. I don’t believe helped man except in his continuing cycle of deviant behavior/abuse he supposedly endured. Many persons who offend were once victims who decided to continue cycle instead of taking the higher road. Past abuse may explain why a person considered doing something yet I’m certain that man knew wrong and there you have it in a nutshell… it is 100% wrong on every level.

    Personally, I think ALL sex offenders should be on an island similar to Guantanamo Bay or Alcatraz Island w/o internet or any access to sexual magazines in any capacity. True if he is the bread winner in his family this could cause a HUGE hardship on his family yet that’s not society’s fault and is this man’s fault. If there are no consequences for breaking the law there are no deterrents for persons to not break the law. Lawlessness begets lawlessness and the degree to which this man’s involvement is public very well may not be the degree to which this man was or is involved.

    Candy coating the bitter truth doesn’t change the facts as you stated so well that w/o buyers there wouldn’t be suppliers.

  3. Chrys says:

    I think we should throw the book at them, letting everyone know full well the consequences of such behavior. Absolutely.

  4. Nathan says:

    I think the Judge should be charged criminally!!

  5. FosterBoys says:

    Personally, I have to grit my teeth every time I hear you refer to grown women as “girls”.

    But then, that’s the mentality we have to deal with. To some boys, we’ll never be anything more than little girls. And when we don’t behave appropriately, they look for the real thing.

  6. Dr Phil,

    You hit the point. Child sex abuse – internet or otherwise is a criminal act. Every picture is a crime scene. So even viewing the images is committing a crime.That is an established fact.

    So now to the punishment matter. For judge Weinstein would 3 years be OK – would 14 days ,as in liberal Canada, make him happy?

    Judges are not the only people who know about justice – children who are abused know about it all too well when the perverts abuse them then are allowed freedom to abuse more of them – even by gawking at sex photos.

    There is a real child in that picture. They have a rigth to a safe life.

  7. Nikki Hodson says:

    Are you kidding me? A VICTIMLESS CRIME MY FOOT!! Child pornography is absolutely NOT a victimless crime. This type of stuff is only the beginning of why our children often throughout their lives hate themselves, communicate poorly with others, sleep around, use drugs, and a myriad of other issues. How is child pornography any different that a person fondling or raping a child. ANY TIME that a person is exploited, it is most certainly a crime WITH a victim. We must stop those in this world who would sabatoge the self esteem of our most prized resources. We will soon be looking to these kids to run our country and to show the world just how we SHOULD love each other. I pray that this is not part of the legacy. I know for sure that The Lord can’t be pleased with these things and we shouldn’t tolerate them either.

  8. Kris says:

    I’m all for second chances and allowing for mistakes…but let’s get real folks! I could see throwing out the case if the guy had a handful of underage pics on his computer. I could see throwing it out if the images were of girls who had misrepresented themselves as older (i.e. a 16-year-old claiming to be 18). But this man had over FIVE THOUSAND images of girls who had not yet reached puberty.

    This is not a matter of someone thinking a couple 16-year-olds were actually 18; this is a clearly defined pattern of a man who finds sexual gratification looking at children. I have to wonder if any of the images he had stored were of his own kids, wonder if he’d molested them.

    Lock this man up, deny him the internet. And most importantly KEEP HIM AWAY FROM CHILDREN!

  9. Kris says:

    I used to be a photo tech and there were times when I would go home in tears from something I had seen that day. Those children ARE victims. If there wasn’t a demand for it then they wouldn’t be making child pornography. Therefor the creator as well as the viewer are both responsible for that child becoming a victim and both should be punished. And… See More yes, I believe that if you are capable of looking at a young child in a sexual manner then you are capable of assaulting child in the same manner. Dr. Phil you wouldn’t believe how many sick individuals would bring in photos of this nature to be developed as if we wouldn’t see them and/or alert the proper authorities. There were many nights that I would just go home, hug my son and cry for those poor children.

  10. BookEmDano says:

    Throw the book at them and keep beating them with it. I left my ex-husband after finding child porn on MY computer that he had downloaded. I turned over the evidence (my computer) to the police and I packed up the 3 kids and myself and moved out. He did a little bit of jail time while waiting for the court date. He got sentenced 5 years probation with rules he had to follow such as not having a computer in his possession except for work purposes (which I can assure you he broke that rule). I know he still looks at porn but I don’t know if he still looks at child porn and honestly…I don’t want to know. In eyes, 5 years probation was not enough. If you ask him…he’ll tell you he’s still “suffering” from the conviction since he now has a felony record and is a registered sex offender.

    Before I left him I had found it once before and insisted he get counseling or we’d be gone. I personally took him down to the mental health facility and got him started. But it did nothing to change his habits. So when I found more pictures again a few months later that was it for me. I don’t know if they really can be changed. Just like with most things, you have to WANT to change for it to happen and he didn’t see anything wrong with what he was doing. I could go on and on about the excuses he gave me and the judge at his trial. But what it all boils down to is that he did no prison time, he got to continue on with his life and his pornography habits. The worst thing that happened in his eyes is that he can no longer legally own a gun because of the felony conviction. Yea…big lesson learned there.

  11. Shannon says:

    My best friend and I started this group on Facebook. We want to see people who do this sort of thing, not ever be able to get a government pardon in Canada. We are almost there. The Bill has been tabled in Canada! NOW we want a publically accessible website, that tells us where child molesters live! We in Canada, deserve to keep our kids safe too! Looking at child porn is the BEGINNING signs of a pedophile! It should be the same sentence for them, as it is for a child molester! The kids in those pictures are victims and being revictimized every single time someone looks at those pictures!
    Join us! Lets help protect our kids!
    Thank you Dr. Phil for bringing up this taboo subject, that our group can’t seem to get people talking about! Maybe you can!

  12. Bethany Joy Rogers says:

    I cannot believe there is any question about this! I was molested by my step father, growing up, I personally feel child molesters, persons who take part in child pornagraphy, and rapists should get the death penalty! They raping children of their innocence and taking away others human beings self security! In some cases, leaving nothing but a crazed shell of a human being behind, is that not worse than murder?! I can’t believe somebody could think this is victimless! What about those innocent children subjected to being in the pornagrahy? This is dispicable! From my own personal hell I remember how traumatic it was and still is. My step father beat me so bad one time that I had to be taken to the hospital, the doctor, or course had to take polaroids of my butt for evidence, I remember how embarassing and degrading that was! How can someone defend these sickos? That judge is dispicable and should lose his seat for this! Or at least be banned from presiding over such trials! I am appauled!

  13. KRISTEN CRIVELLO says:

    In my eyes, anyone viewing child pornography is participating in the abuse of the child/children themselves. An innocent child was obviously abused by someone to have the pictures or videos taken of them and for someone else to view them for their own sexual gratification is in essence abuse. I’m not sure if counseling will help. Isnt someone who gives themself permission to view these images on the banana peel to conducting the abuse themselves??? That’s the parallel I draw. I feel very passionately about this Dr. Phil – someone has to be the voice for these poor kids!

  14. As an adult survivor (age 57) of extreme emotional abuse, sexual abuse and physical abuse I feel that child predators of any nature should be jailed AND whatever they did to thoses babies NEEDS to be done to him/her! I am probably most bitter at myself because I never prosecuted my sexual and physical abuser as he is “family.” My emotional abuser was my mom…RIP…

  15. HardCoreWaLady says:

    I think we should expand Mc Neil Island Correctional Center located just South of the Puget Sound in Steilacoom, Wa. That is where ALL of the sex offenders are housed that are “high risk to reoffend” in Washington state. Washington requires ALL Levels 1 , 2, and 3 to register as sex offenders so people know even if there is a Level 1 sex offender living next door. Please everyone check out Mc Neil Island we need more of them !! Child Pornography is a CRIME ! Lock them up and throw away the key …thats the ONLY rehab that should be offered to any sex offender !! Period !

  16. Kristin says:

    My name is Kristin and we need help for my child. I was in a very absive marriage and had the couage to walk away.I got away from the beating, the punches, the wipping, and the bruises. The worst was he choked me to the point I blacked out. When I came to I was beatin and bruised. I needed to leaveand I got to 2 best things in my life out of that house. So proud! I took the 16 hour drive to Yorkville, IL on December 31st. My children are my world heart and , my rock, my soul. I moved in with my sister Angel, her husband and there 4 children. Then there is my 2 children He is 2 and she is 1.My sister moved into a nice house BUT my son Aiden has very bad ashtma and cant breath in the basement were we stay. Treatments havent been working.I want to know if you could find it in your heart to help me.I am a single mother who cant find any help me. If I had family to ask I would have asked.I was raped(54 stitches up inside), my parents turned there backs on me,beatings, the bruises, and the pain.My kids are the best thing that ever happened to me I think I would have given up if it werent for them. I am not asking for a manison (thats not me), I need to clean it ..lol I am asking for alittle help, a hero, somebody just to take some weight off my shoulders. I am a mother before student, I am a mother before I am Kristin. I wont stop writing, I wont stop blogging to find someone to help me. I need help and I hate admitting that heck any mother doesnt want to admitshe cant take care of one of her children. I care for him in every other wayYou would be saving my sons life and you would help me breath easy knowing my baby boy can breath and we will be safe. Please thank you for listening to my story. Your friend and fan Kristin

  17. Shirley says:

    HANG ‘EM ALL…SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. LINE ‘EM UP! THEY CAN’T BE REHABILITATED!

  18. Rhonda says:

    and how would the judge feel if this happen to his child or grandchild???????????

  19. Rhonda says:

    I think this judge needs think about how he would feel if this happen to his own child or grandchild!!

  20. L.A. MikeTheSkeptic says:

    Brian Rushfeldt says

    14 days ,as in liberal Canada

    Is that really the penality meted out by our neighbor to the north?

  21. Dr Phil, you ask the public, what we should do? How about just asking us victims what we would like to see happen? To the people out there, who forget that we were very vulnerable,trusting, innocent children? Our carefree Innocence,or curiosity,to explore and learn about our surroundings were snatched, and lost to them, FOREVER. Suddenly we found ourselves confused, ashamed, afraid of being alone, and silent. So as I think about what should happen to those horrible scars that never go away, I think that it never should of happen in the first place. If society, knows about these individuals, and do nothing, let them room around our streets, neighborhoods, etc.. I feel they are as guilty as the person who has commited the crime, IF NOT MORE GUILTY. So when you have knowledge and the individual who committed the crime, even if they did their Court ordered time in PRISON, are they allowed to be released back into lifes? Aren’t you aware that they shop in our stores, walk down our sidewalks, sit in dark movie theaters around our children, maybe at Church gatherings in the restroom alone with our child ? Think about this, most of us don’t know or didn’t know they had a past like that. So I ask you, WHY ARE THEY OUT HERE????? LOCK THEM UP!!!!! THEY WON’T CHANGE…….And our inter-child relives FEAR everytime we hear about them.

  22. Debbie says:

    I do believe that viewing child porn is a different matter than actively producing and marketing it. There is no doubt in my mind that those actively involved in the production of child porn should be locked up for a LONG time.

    I am thinking, however, that those who accumulate and/or view it should be treated a bit differently. They are sick and need treatment, so maybe their initial offenses should be handled with less severe punishment and subsequent offenses should result in increasingly more severe punishment including incarceration.

    I agree that ANY participation in this type of activity, even if it’s only viewing it, is supportive of the industry. As long as there is a market there will be a product so I understand the rationale in threatening and implementing punishment for anyone involved. But, as is the case with some forms of alcohol use (like underage drinking), there should probably be levels of violation which result in different degrees of punishment.

    Personally, I’m against ALL porn, including adult porn! In general I feel the prevalence of pornography is affecting relationships, attitudes and expectations, especially with our young people who have MUCH more access to this type of media than in the past. I suspect that the progress we women have made towards “equality” and “mutual respect” in a male dominated society has been and will continue to be eroded by the more mainstream acceptance of porn (and the way women are represented in porn) as a form of “entertainment”. I continue to be surprised by the number of women who see it as an acceptable form of entertainment! I have always felt this way, even when I was younger (I’m 57 now).

  23. rachel says:

    dr. phil..not only is it a crime to veiw child phono, but it’s a sin..in god’s eye’s.”as a man thinketh, so is he”..so, why does a man look at this stuff?..because , when he can’t do the actual deed he gets by with the porno’s…any judge that lets a person go for this is sending him back out to commit the real thing! and he probably has already!…no one looks at child porno unless they r pedifiles..wheather in heart, mind or actuality

  24. Emma Andrews says:

    Instead of closing prisons, these should be used specifically for sex offenders. I do not thing there is a cure for sex offenders. If they are put behind bars for the rest of there lives they will never rape again.

  25. Emma Andrews says:

    There is only one way to remove a judge (in this state that I know of and maybe in others) . This is for other judges to get together and decide that this judge is not doing his job properly and then he can be removed from the bench. This of course, will only happen when the people protest in that judges area and something is done by the other judges. I would take a good look at the judges personal background too.

  26. L.A. MikeTheSkeptic says:

    hi debbie, you said:
    Personally, I’m against ALL porn, including adult porn! In general I feel the prevalence of pornography is affecting relationships, attitudes and expectations, especially with our young people who have MUCH more access to this type of media than in the past. I suspect that the progress we women have made towards “equality” and “mutual respect” in a male dominated society has been and will continue to be eroded by the more mainstream acceptance of porn (and the way women are represented in porn) as a form of “entertainment”. I continue to be surprised by the number of women who see it as an acceptable form of entertainment! I have always felt this way, even when I was younger (I’m 57 now).

    As for adult porn: Well, Debbie, I will certainly agree with you this much: There ARE much more productive and positive and purposeful ways to use the Web, like education, news, classical music (or country music, or pop/rock music, or jazz, if that suits you), good movies, opinion, cooking, gardening, or simply the latest weather for your area.

    In any case, i have come to think that a real relationship with a flesh-and-blood person beats a virtual one with a pornstar (translation= two-dimensional picture)
    any day of the week, hands down.

  27. Sulaiman says:

    Pornography all kinds results in a negative outlook towards life and in one’s behavior. How? You get degraded in your own eyes & standards by viewing absolute garbage. Viewing these things I think degrades a person. What are the positive things one gets out of it, nothing credible. Its just desires, lusts, wants, fetish, sensual excitement, etc. . . Those who think pornography is acceptable also accept that a woman can be treated like trash, abused mentally, physically, spiritually. pornography=degradation of woman. A healthy alternative is marriage & that’s that. those who support pornography support the markets which create them, support the ideology of degradation of woman, support prostitution, which destroys a society’s social fabric, which in turn have negative consequences for a decent family & its kids which have to live in such an environment. these things are a multi-billion dollar industry & its beneficiaries would call you violating freedom of expression if you would raise a voice to shut them completely. they would give you hell and ridicule you for transgressions committed to them for pulling the plug, which would mean no more easy money & no illegal, negative sensual elevation for them, and enslaving innocent souls. they are basically to be viewed as a disease, a cancer & one shud guard oneself from their cunning, deceiving ways which takes shape in many forms. Jesus hates these people so should you other wise you are one of them. get clear!

  28. Bill says:

    I’m not expressing my opinions (not because I don’t have one, but because I really don’t think anyone cares what it is – I always say if you don’t stand for something, you will fall for anything.) but I want everyone to know that opinions are like assholes – everyone has one and they all stink so nobody is perfect and if you think all of you are perfect look again (including Dr. Phil.) – you all have probably done stuff that you should go to jail for, but are as free as a bird.

  29. L.A. MikeTheSkeptic says:

    Bill says:

    I’m not expressing my opinions (not because I don’t have one, but because I really don’t think anyone cares what it is – I always say if you don’t stand for something, you will fall for anything.) but I want everyone to know that opinions are like assholes – everyone has one and they all stink so nobody is perfect and if you think all of you are perfect look again (including Dr. Phil.) – you all have probably done stuff that you should go to jail for, but are as free as a bird.

    hi there,
    i think your post is a golden one. I may be a Unitarian, which means I don’t quote the Bible exclusively (all faiths, from Christ to the Sufis to the Tibetan Buddhists, are quotable, as far as I’m concerned), but “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!”

  30. Susan says:

    I am shocked that someone who is supposed to up hold laws that are in place to protect our children would want to weaken them. I feel that the laws should be strengthen and have harsher punishments handed out. I am a survior of childhood molestation. I persue the man who abused me and justice was not given. He is still free to walk and do what he feels while I have to daily make a conscience decision not to allow what happen to control me. I fell like the child I was at one time was murdered. I will never be happy go lucky again, I will always have memories that I would rather not remember. The child I was is gone, forever, that child is never coming back. I am nothing but a shell of the person I could have been. The molestation was horrible but not getting justice for it was like being abused all over again. I think this judge need to realize this. If this happened to someone he cared about trust me he wouldnt be trying to lessen the punishment. He would be trying to strengthen the punishment.

  31. prefer anonymous says:

    1. Re the comment by Kris the former photo tech:
    If a customer brings in child porm film to be developed, isn’t the tech or the store management legally obligated to report it to the police? I thought it was legally mandatory to report child pornography.
    2. Re Judge Weinstein: A judge enforces the law. A judge doesn’t make the law. So it doesn’t matter what the judge thinks in this case. He has to enforce the law. I suspect that the judge is worried about having to sentence some young frat guys with no criminal record who download some pictures as a prank and who aren’t pedophiles.

  32. L.A. MikeTheSkeptic says:

    2. Re Judge Weinstein: A judge enforces the law. A judge doesn’t make the law. So it doesn’t matter what the judge thinks in this case. He has to enforce the law. I suspect that the judge is worried about having to sentence some young frat guys with no criminal record who download some pictures as a prank and who aren’t pedophiles.

    hi prefer anonymous:

    yes there are a lot of cases like that, but that betrays a certain callousness on said fratboy’s part, doesn’t it?

    I dunno though–my workout inspiration every morning is my desktop page, which shows a University of the Pacific water polo player in a Speedo. That’s different, though, isn’t it? 18-23 years old is light-years away, mentally, from 9 years old, and it’s those young kids I want to help smile and play and be happy and have adults they can genuinely trust and look up to.

  33. Jennifer G. says:

    There is NOTHING that is innocent about child pornography, NOTHING!!!!!!! Anyone who is interested in it is a sick, disgusting monster. These are innocent children and babies and no one has the right to get pleasure from their innocent bodies. The thought of it absolutely disgusts me. Too many innocent, precious kids are murdered each year because of sickos who fantasize over child pornography and then want to turn it into reality.
    There is nothing innocent about child pornography and it is sick, disgusting, violating, and DANGEROUS!!!!!
    ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED IN CHILD PORNOGRAHY (SELLERS, BUYERS, VIEWERS) SHOULD BE PROSECUTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  34. Barbara Henry says:

    If no one looked wouldnt have no reason to make the porn,they all need the book thrown at them even the judge

  35. karen says:

    i dont care if no one agrees with me, take away these kids cell phones, as for the pc’s, or lap top, thats kinda complicated now days, they actually need them for home work

  36. Roy says:

    I fully agree with Phil and what everyone has commented on this blog. But why stop with child porn? we need to put in jail everyone who possesses photos that hurt anyone. Pictures of murders, rapes, arson, assault etc let’s prosecute all of them. It is not an excuse that it is entertainment or art. Both fiction and non-fiction are inexcusable. Films and books about murder, the holocaust and other horrid crimes also denigrate people and hurt them. it re-victimizes all of them. So let’s put all these magazine and newspaper and TV news show people in jail where they belong. The nightly news glories in murders and bloody accidents. Why do we allow that? Lock them all up and throw away the key. It is time to crack down on the voyeurs of violence.

  37. L.A. MikeTheSkeptic says:

    Roy says:

    I fully agree with Phil and what everyone has commented on this blog. But why stop with child porn? we need to put in jail everyone who possesses photos that hurt anyone. Pictures of murders, rapes, arson, assault etc let’s prosecute all of them. It is not an excuse that it is entertainment or art. Both fiction and non-fiction are inexcusable. Films and books about murder, the holocaust and other horrid crimes also denigrate people and hurt them. it re-victimizes all of them. So let’s put all these magazine and newspaper and TV news show people in jail where they belong. The nightly news glories in murders and bloody accidents. Why do we allow that? Lock them all up and throw away the key. It is time to crack down on the voyeurs of violence.

    hi there,
    I think we’re going way overboard here. To implement your plan, we’d have to turn the U.S. into a dictatorship, really–cancelling the 1st Amendment almost completely, and maybe the entire Bill of Rights.

    Frankly, it seems to me you’re advocating the abrogation of democracy. And if that happens, the whole reason for the existence of the USA will cease to be. I know one thing–your plan is a pretty solid guarantee for a Second American Civil War.

    And in that case, there will be PLENTY of horror and blood–and rape, and atrocities of various kinds, for real.

  38. sandra says:

    Dr. Phil asked how is child pornography going to end.

    “IN THE Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the United Nations has proclaimed that childhood is entitled to special care and assistance,” states the preamble of the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Regarding the importance of the family, it adds: “The child, for the full and harmonious development of his or her personality, should grow up in a family environment, in an atmosphere of happiness, love and understanding.” Yet, this ideal is far from being achieved.

    Just talking about a better world for children is not enough. Moral degeneration is rampant, and many people consider the situation normal. Widespread depravity and greed cannot be controlled by law enforcement. Even parents, rather than showing love and protecting their children, often contribute to the climate of permissiveness. What hope, then, do we have for an end to child prostitution?

    Although this corrupt system has failed to ensure that all children are given a loving home and a secure future, our Creator will soon eliminate every kind of perversity and promiscuity, including child prostitution and child pornography. Soon, surprisingly for the world, God will intervene in human affairs by means of his Kingdom. “The upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it. As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth; and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it.”—Proverbs 2:21, 22.

    Imagine the relief when both children and adults will be able to live without degradation and sexual abuse! Even the emotional and physical harm caused by exploitation and violence will be things of the past. Former victims of sexual exploitation will be able to live without disturbing memories or aftereffects. “The former things will not be called to mind, neither will they come up into the heart.”—Isaiah 65:17.

    Then, no child will be born to suffer mistreatment or sexual abuse. Happiness, love, and understanding will be no mere dream. About the inhabitants of God’s new world, Isaiah 11:9 declares: “They will not do any harm or cause any ruin.”

    Indeed, what a joy it will be when poverty, drug abuse, unhappy families, and moral badness are no more! Peace, righteousness, and security will reign. “My people must dwell in a peaceful abiding place and in residences of full confidence and in undisturbed resting-places.”—Isaiah 32:18.

    Soon, surprisingly for the world, God will intervene in human affairs by means of his Kingdom

  39. Regina says:

    If the buyers of the pornography did not create a demand in the market place, the producers would not have an incentive, otherwise known as big bucks, to create and distribute the pornography. The argument that buyers of pornography should not spend more time in jail than the creators of the pornographic material is ludacris. If anything, tougher sentences should be created and enforced for the latter offender. If the upstanding adult members of society don’t work diligently to protect the innocent children of today’s society, we are not giving them an opportunity to grow into happy productive law abiding citizens.

  40. Paradoxis says:

    Is looking the same as touching now?

  41. FosterBoys says:

    Paradoxis,

    The morally self-righteous don’t deal with subtle distinctions like that! It’s all so black and white to them. They don’t trust you to control yourself from your base and primitive urges, so they’ll make the decisions for you.

    Actually, it’s not that they don’t trust YOU, it’s just that they don’t trust THEMSELVES to be able to handle your imperfection. It’s sad, really.

  42. L.A. MikeTheSkeptic says:

    Paradoxis says:
    May 29, 2010 at 9:13 am
    Is looking the same as touching now?

    Hi there,
    Well I will say that looking at child porn and PAYING for it is consuming a toxic product, and enriching the coffers of the sleazy merchants of said toxic products.

    Now mind you as I said, I have pictures (both action and non-action) of waterpolo players. Fascinating sport, and great workout inspiration. I figure that my desktop page (and various photos) have been instrumental in keeping my blood pressure and cholesterol under control. But what we are referring to here is not fit bodies in Speedos, but prepubescent kids actually engaging in sex, presumably with adults. And that, I think, is callous, cold, manipulative, and the slimeballs that run these operations are only in it for the money, believe me.

    It is the disregard of those children in pursuit of millions that I find so repulsive. Far, far worse than a nudie picture that a teenage girl emails to her boyfriend, that’s for sure. Or, to be fair, the nude picture that a highschool bodybuilder sends to his favorite girl.

    That’s the way I see it, anyhow.

  43. vince says:

    i know what i would like to do about child porn Dr Phil, but if i put it down on type of any kind i could be jailed for terrostic threats, i think you know where im coming from what i can talk about is the reason we still have this going on, sir if the politions and lawyers would stop giving these deased minded evil vile forms of life god has to deal with any rights this crap would stop,every time i see a lawyer defending a pedifile and making loop holes in laws to allow them on the streets with our kids i pull my hair out bite my toung and say things in my mind god himself has to cover his ears too,these people as far as i am concerned threw there rights away the second they do this to a child, from the looks of things with this mess in the gulf and all we will not have to wait on god much longer,i look forward to that time as i know god will give just judgement on all, dr phil on that day i would not care if i had to burn in hell as long as god sends me in first! cause i want to laugh at all these people who think god is a myth and these corrupt politicions and judges / lawyers,greedy rich who corrupt all who come in contact with them, yes God knows my heart would love to be at hells gates that day,all i ask is give me a budweiser in my left hand and 1 last joint in my right and let me sit and laugh at all these idiots till i finish one last beer and joint,btw doc i quit all that a while back but i would want one before going in hell hahahahah, for that is the day god has made for truth and justice, till then were all on our own it seems, ohhh too i am skidsophrinic or how ever you spell that word i just call it akidso cause i can spell that,i would make all the children proud of me that day cause they would know the guilty wernt going nowhere eccept to a etirinty of me poppiong a bottle of woop ass on them, yes that day i would give god my soul back and settle for hell over all i have sen in my life! after all we dont want satan having the last laugh do we? lol i would kick his @ss aswell for eturnity,i will show him who will rule who! never know God may give me my wish thers nothing God cant do i already meet him i know hes real and i know all the wonderful things he has wating on the fatefull, its worth the wait is all i will tell you, after all thats Gods surprise for all i dont want to spoil it for him, yes sir Dr Phil thats what i think about child porn to a T with all my heart i mean that.

  44. cjscott says:

    I was recently on a Grand Jury group where one of the cases was a 21 year man sex-ing a very explicit photo of himself to a 14 female casual acquaintance. She’d met him through a friend. The district attorney wanted to file charges against this man. This group of 7 people split on this! Now understand, we’d heard other cases of molestation by family members, friends, etc. against both young boys and girls, and easily gave the go ahead to file charges. Yet when it came to a very mature 14 year old girl (who gave evidence and did NOT want charges filed) against this man, the 2 white, middle aged and one 20’s something WOMEN were against charges saying ’sexing’ is what ‘all the kids are doing now’ and they didn’t want to have this man tagged as a sex offender for the rest of his life. I was furious.
    The DA pulled the case for the next Grand Jury to review. Then she was able to tell us that this man had done this to 5 other young girls, raping 3 of them. Yet he was still on the loose.
    I cannot imagine what kind of message this sent to the young girl giving evidence but it sure shocked me that these 3 women felt it was not a crime. I even had the DA put the picture up: very pornographic, and the women just turned their heads and voted no.
    When will it change? When it’s THEIR kids? And they had kids.

  45. Ann Marie Robinson says:

    Dear Dr. Phil, First let me thank you for taking up the charge to protect children from any Monsters they may come across. Speaking as a survivor of Child Molestation I feel it is important to make people aware that these monstrosities do occur and they should be stopped and punished. I cannot believe that someone sworn to protect and serve is on the side of the man accused of Child Pornography. I don’t believe that people realize the impact these atrocities have on the children involved. If they did they would not allow these monstrous deeds to continue.

  46. L.A. MikeTheSkeptic says:

    cjscott says:

    I was recently on a Grand Jury group where one of the cases was a 21 year man sex-ing a very explicit photo of himself to a 14 female casual acquaintance. She’d met him through a friend. The district attorney wanted to file charges against this man. This group of 7 people split on this! Now understand, we’d heard other cases of molestation by family members, friends, etc. against both young boys and girls, and easily gave the go ahead to file charges. Yet when it came to a very mature 14 year old girl (who gave evidence and did NOT want charges filed) against this man, the 2 white, middle aged and one 20’s something WOMEN were against charges saying ’sexing’ is what ‘all the kids are doing now’ and they didn’t want to have this man tagged as a sex offender for the rest of his life. I was furious.
    The DA pulled the case for the next Grand Jury to review. Then she was able to tell us that this man had done this to 5 other young girls, raping 3 of them. Yet he was still on the loose.
    I cannot imagine what kind of message this sent to the young girl giving evidence but it sure shocked me that these 3 women felt it was not a crime. I even had the DA put the picture up: very pornographic, and the women just turned their heads and voted no.
    When will it change? When it’s THEIR kids? And they had kids.

    hi there,
    In cases like THAT I will agree with you. That was an adult sexting a teen. And, it seems, the teen girl makes poor assessments of those she wants to date.
    I did not, by the way, mean to imply that sexting is without risk. But what I am saying is that the kind of (occasional) sexting I described is, at least, less bad than child porn, if taken by itself. Not spotless, to be sure, but, perhaps, the slight lesser of two evils.

    Your case, however, is clearly not the kind of thing i meant to describe.

    Sorry if it seemed otherwise.

  47. Onno256 says:

    Hi there,

    Internet gives us a lot of freedom, which is both a good and bad thing. The good is that You are no longer dependent on official channels of communication, which are not always reliable (with agendas and commercial funding and whatnot). The downside is that not many people are capable of handling this kind of freedom, if there are no repercussions, the only inhibitors are your own moral choices.

    Downloading child pornography is for self-gratification, even if you are not a pedophile. (Scary but true; some people with child pornography on their computers are not pedophiles). In any case, it should be punished… In our modern day society everything is a product; Sex, Love, Attention. Everything can be bought for the right price. Because of this, people have a sense of entitlement, they say; I work hard, I can pay for this, I have a right to have my needs met. The only problem is that the right of the other party don’t seem to count.

    We have a social contract; If I treat you right, You treat me right. It’s the agreement under which we stave of chaos and murder. Nowadays people can easily get what they want under the guise of anonymity.

    Lure ‘em in and punish ‘em, I say. Let them know the price for gratification may be higher than they expect. If possible, treat them and force them to place themselves in the minds of their victims.

    This is of course only my opinion, I am not a doctor…..

    Greetz,
    Onno256.

  48. Brittany says:

    I’m from Australia, and here they want to have nation wide, MANDATORY, IP internet filtering to prevent the trading of child pornography! I think this is NOT the solution, it’s not fair that the Australian government wants to punish the whole country for a few sick people’s acts.
    I think these people really need help and should be taken from mainstream society. I also think children need to be educated on what to do if they find themselves in the hands of these predators.
    But as horrible as it is, I doubt the world will ever be free of child pornography, we can only do the best we can.

  49. Cynthia says:

    I was molested by my father when I was in the third grade and I blocked it out but I remember thinking about commiting suiside and fighting myself not to do it because it would hurt my mom. So fathers need to know that their baby girl may not live threw a few minutes of self plessure he will have if she cant block it out as I have done. Mothers need to learn to protect their children and dress them as little girls and not let them grow up to fast. Mainly keep an open communication with their children and talk openly about how to handle a situation that involves sexual attempt.

    Protect our children Lord and keep them safe from harm.

    Amen

  50. Brandy says:

    How do you decide who gets what? These men are sick. Some actually are helped by GOOD treatment programs. How do you know who can be helped and who can’t? I can’t believe all of these men AND WOMEN are lost causes. Why fill up jails and prisons? I believe the men who are molesters and rapist by all means should spend a very long time in prison. But some of these people can be helped. We as a society see sex offenders as monsters and not mentally ill. I DO NOT AGREE BY ANY MEANS WITH WHAT THEY DO. I just think that this should be looked at on a case by case basis.

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